Non-reducible descriptions for conditional Kolmogorov complexity

Assume that a program p on input a outputs b. We are looking for a shorter program q having the same property (q(a)=b). In addition, we want q to be simple conditional to p (this means that the conditional Kolmogorov complexity K(q|p) is negligible). In the present paper, we prove that sometimes there is no such program q, even in the case when the complexity of p is much bigger than K(b|a). We give three different constructions that use the game approach, probabilistic arguments and algebraic arguments, respectively.